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"God Speaks to a New
Prophetic Voice from South Africa about America"
An interview with Benjamin Arde
Note from Steve Shultz:
Tonight, this young man will be on TBN
at 7pm PST. He comes with good references from Marilyn Hickey, Tim Storey,
and Mike Evans. This interview may be helpful in learning how one man went
through the process of becoming a prophet!
Blessings,
Steve Shultz
THE ELIJAH LIST
www.elijahlist.com
The ministry through Benjamin is called
to be a carrier of the flame. God specifically spoke through a prophetic
word to him that he was to "take the fire". In an open vision where he saw
many laying lifeless, he heard the words, "tell them to get up." In the
vision, the hot coals of fire had already begun to burn inside of him, all
he had to do was release it. Many churches all over are reporting renewal,
healings and deliverance through the prophetic impartation that is released.
His dedication to the call of God that he received as a young boy has
propelled him into deep dimensions of God. In South Africa and the U.S.A. he
is recognized for his integrity as well as the accuracy in the gifts.
Currently he is in the forefront and working with many of the strong
spiritual leaders in South Africa, such as Kobus van Rensburg, whose show on
TBN Africa, is one of the most popular. He has spoken of this ministry as
dynamic, accurate and reliable, and actively endorses him.
Benjamin envisions a mighty restoration of God’s power for the greater
works. He calls it, " Manifesting the manifesto."
Below is an interview with Benjamin that
will give you a greater understanding of who he is and what he he has been
called to do..
Q. Where were you born?
A. Born in Durban, South Africa
Q. When did you commit your life to
Christ?
A. One day, when I was eight years old, I was playing outside, minding my
own business, when a burning conviction overcame me and I began to weep. I
felt vulnerable and exposed. Together with this conviction came an intense
love from the Lord towards me, which blanketed the conviction. I searched
for someone to help because I didn’t understand what was happening. Thank
the Lord my Mom was in the living room. All I remember saying was, "Mom, I
need Jesus! I need Jesus!" I had known Him as young boy and I had
experienced Him many times, but yet, that particular day was a turning point
- the day that He wanted to be Lord and have me make an official
declaration. In obedience, I prayed the sinner’s prayer and I became born
again. There was a strong affirmation made through this life changing
experience.
Q. Do you remember your first spiritual encounter?
A. From childhood, my memories are filled with many wonderful encounters of
God manifesting Himself in miraculous ways. For me, they are the visible,
unquestionable, encounters of my life. These are the building blocks that
defined who I was and that kept me focused on the Call.
Q. What was your first major encounter?
A. When I was five years old, I was praying with some others. We were all on
our knees and we had all been praying in the Spirit for some time. I recall
the time being closer to midday. The Lord’s manifest presence began to fill
the room. The presence was very powerful and demanding. I felt as if my
whole being was pulled into a different place and, for me, this was most
exhilarating. As an intense Godly fear consumed the atmosphere, my first
reaction was to keep my face to the floor. But then later, my curiosity
urged me to nervously gaze upwards. I looked straight into these piercing
eyes. The eyes just looked straight into me, striking every cell in my body,
releasing such peace. He knew my every thought. The entire place was
reverentially silent, and my body lay motionless but yet fixed on Him. I
remember thinking to myself to not move.
Standing right in front of the door and still staring at me, with His arms
outstretched, He smiled like He was excited to give me something. He began
to release an anointing upon me that I felt in my Spirit, but He didn’t say
much. That moment wasn’t what was said, but what was released. Jesus
personally revealed Himself to me and showed His call over my life. He
explained how I would take Him to the Nations of the World. So much was
established that day. From that time, I have had numerous visions, dreams
and, on occasions, supernatural encounters. But to me, that meeting was the
most life changing. I could never leave Him after experiencing such a deep
revelation of Him and understanding of the call.
Q. What are your earliest memories of church?
A. My memories start in the Charismatic renewal as a young boy. My dad was
Catholic and my mom Dutch Reformed. They were both impacted by the sovereign
move of the Spirit during that era and they left everything to go into the
ministry. I remember taking my blanket along with me as a young boy whilst
we journeyed from meeting to meeting, not wanting to miss anything that God
was doing! My earliest memories are not so much of the Church, but rather of
the move of God in our lives, of the miracles encountered and of constantly
seeing the influx of new souls from receiving salvation. We were constantly
on the road and on the move for God, and everywhere that we went, instead of
having conversations, we would be praying in the Spirit. It was awesome! I
loved that! I remember the hunger for more of God and how churches were
being birthed all over. I believe a greater move is about to break forth
once more.
Q. What was your family life like growing up?
A. Whilst growing up, family life was not the normal kind and, by
comparison, my life did not relate to many others that I have known. It was
always God-centered and people-focused. By the age of seven, I had already
been to four nations of the world on the mission field. I had seen
deliverances, healings, and miracles of provision. The countries I went to
were Mauritius, India, Hong Kong and the Philippines. I remember how I loved
flying on Airplanes. I was so used to living out of suitcases (and I still
am) because we were always in different geographical locations for the work
of God. Things, such as homes, and the sort of things that most people
prioritize were never an issue in our family, although we each had our
responsibilities and individual parts to play within our household. It was
the "faith life" we chose and lived. We put our trust wholly and completely
in God to meet our every need.
I can remember one time when we had no food. Prayer was always the answer
during situations like that. As a family unit, prayer was made in agreement
for our provision. Thanking God for multiplication, we laid hands on the
refrigerator. My younger sister needed milk for her bottle and there was
only a little bit of milk left in the carton. When we came back the next
morning, the milk in the fridge had changed into thick cream. All we needed
to do was add water to the cream to make milk. Again, on the second day, we
added water because what was left had became like thick cream. For seven
days, all we did was add water to the thick cream to have the most wonderful
milk. There are many miraculous stories I can relate, but this particular
experience is one of my encounters of God’s personal provision during my
childhood.
Q. When did you begin to operate in the gift of prophecy?
A. It was there from very young age. Once, in a vision, when I was seven
years of age, I saw my dad’s car, which was a white Toyota. It was old and
beaten up - a real faith mobile. My dad was driving over a bridge in it and
halfway across the bridge, the vehicle just stopped and broke down. Then I
saw how this friend of my dad’s, whom he had just met, drove up in a green
Mazda 323 to assist. Instead of helping, he gave my dad his car! The next
day, exactly as it was revealed in the vision, it happened. "How amazing is
the Lord!"
Also at the age of seven walking downstairs in the morning, amongst other
early visions and encounters, I saw an immense pair of bright feet was
standing in our living room. I simply stared at the heavenly feet, and
remained staring, as they didn’t moved for 15 minutes.
During childhood, there have been further periods when my eyes have been
opened to Spiritual Beings in the Heavenlies. One such time was when I
walked into a room while others were intently praying. The roof of the room
disappeared before my very eyes, and in the same room, what at that age
seemed as real as you and me, I saw thousands of angels warring off these
demonic spirits. I saw how concentrated the battle was that they were
engaged in, and how the prayer was working alongside the angels. God showed
me the need and power of "prayer cover".
When I was about nine, I was at an intercession meeting. There was this one
man and his wife that were the Sunday School leaders at my Dad’s Church. I
saw this weird demon-looking spirit standing behind them both, controlling
them. I later informed my parent’s of this. The next week, it began to
manifest through them, as was shown to me, and they were removed from the
congregation.
The list of experiences that I have had with the Holy Spirit goes on, but
there was never any trying to operate in or stir anything. What came by the
Holy Ghost to me was released through me. It was a very simple mode of
operation. The gift, which has been there in different manifestations, has
matured in diverse areas but the character that has had to be developed
alongside is and was the most important.
Q. When did you realize that you were called to the office of prophet?
A. I realized it at about ten years of age.
Q. How did it happen?
A. I remember a Prophet came to a conference in Durban, South Africa when I
was about ten or so. I got to spend some time with him. It was not a long
time, but being with him did something to me. He was the first really
accurate prophet I had met. I remember his eyes and how he looked through a
person. It wasn’t his style that impressed me but what was in him that I was
drawn to. He prophesied some key events that happened within the Church and
over peoples lives and politically as well. I felt an affinity with him.
From that day, there was a realization for me as to the specifics of the
office of the prophet, and that I had been called to such.
Q. How many years passed between calling and release?
A. There are different levels to any person’s call, and it is dependant upon
the individual as to how far they would like to go in their pursuit of the
call. Paul pressed to the High Call. In that process of discovery, there
were greater levels and dynamics of testing to bring him to the place of
reaching the goal or mark of the "High Call", as he called it. I believe the
calling does not exclude anybody from testing. In fact, it brings these
experiences on. It is the pressing that squeezes the oil, and if we want
anointing, we have to be pressed.
Through these experiences, there is a
greater fusion of the gifting and the calling. They are inseparable. The
calling and gifting are wrapped in the character, and the substance of
character is developed in the fire. These testings are what produce the
fortitude or character to handle the release of the gifting. We sometimes
major on one and not the other. In other words, depending where we come from
we are either gift based or character based, fearing both sides.
We just have to look at Joseph to realize
when he received the high call and gifting. He received these through the
vision in the night, which showed his family bowing down to him. When we
look at how his life changed from the moment it was delivered, and even
through all the experiences he went through in Potiphars house, in prison,
he was always a prince. He was who he was. He just had to go through the
journey to release his call and gifting. Positionally, Joseph was always in
his calling.
To conclude, I was always in my calling, but with different degrees of
release and experiences. Every release came at the appropriate timing of God
and through the next level of testing.
Q. Did you experience "silent years"?
A. There were no silent years, but there were testing years. In 1995, a
prophet of God that had a major impact in my life called me out in a large
crowd, and he looked at me and began to say, "Just like Shadrach, Meshach
and Abednego were in the fire heated seven times hotter, so I will be with
you in the fire, and in the next five years you will go from glory to glory
in the anointing", along with many other things he said, which were all
wonderful. That part was the fire, the testing part, and so it was that fire
was added to fire, test after test until God released the glory, releasing
glory on glory.
Q. Tell us about some of your adult encounters with God?
A. The following experiences selected for inclusion have not been sought
after, but flow out of seeking God. I believe they are for the Body.
Some three and a half years ago, I gave a prophetic word in which it was
declared that "in the coming years, as the waters cover the earth, the Lord
was going to release a Supernatural Technology to His body, and that it
would cause His people to be way ahead of what the enemy was doing." I saw
all these waters flooding the earth. Waters mean trials and tribulations,
and also knowledge.
Daniel said that in the last days knowledge would increase. Human knowledge
could also be like those waters overwhelming and suffocating the people and
becoming a burden. I believe it is the negative spirit that pervades in our
world today. What I saw was God’s supernatural technology. It was not only a
barrier of defense, or shield, but, in fact, it was offensive and caused
God’s people to get so far ahead of the enemy that they were translated out
of that water.
The realm of the spirit, not in the strange or flaky sense, but the real
spirit world, the heavenlies, where John, Paul and Ezekiel and countless
others went, was where all the breakthroughs occurred. Jesus said, "I will
give you the Keys to the Kingdom." Jesus gave us the Keys but He carried on
to say that whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven, and what you
loose on earth is loosed in heaven. We already have the keys, but like Jesus
said, I only do that which my Father shows me. We need to " see" what we
must do with what has been given to us. It is the seeing working alongside
with the keys of binding and loosing. I believe many will now be taken into
these experiences for the particular reason of being a frustration to the
enemy because if we can " see" what he is planning, we can destroy what he
is doing. Also if we can "see" what the Father is saying, we can align
ourselves with what the Father is doing. I believe it is time now for people
to have their eyes opened.
Godly
Accountability
With these revelations, experiences and the opening of the spiritual eyes,
there will have to be accountability. I am talking of responsibility to
genuine prophets because having eyes to see is one thing, but discernment is
another. The prophets have the discernment.
Matt 6:22 says the light of the body is the eye, and if your eye is single,
your whole body is illuminated or full of light. The eye delivers light or
illumination to the body. Without light, the body is sick, because it is the
light that brings forth health in the blood cells. In the same way, in the
spiritual, the eye can also show to the prophet, and without the true
prophets, we will have no illumination.
I have seen many people have spiritual encounters, some with and some
without discernment. Anything that is interpreted wrongly, or is void of
Godly discernment through legitimate prophets, will either lead to great
deception, or it will not avail the intended purpose. That is why I feel it
is imperative that as we are being exposed to facets of this type of
understanding, that there is a Godly accountability for full effectiveness.
The Encounters . . .
Roughly three years ago, after praying continuously for about two and a half
weeks for between 4 to 8 hours a day, I spoke to a man of God on the phone
that prayed for me, "Lord, open his eyes that he may see," and from that
moment, there was resurgence in my life of a side of the prophetic that had
dissipated in comparison to former years. I was caught into a season of
Visions and Heavenly Experiences. I will not go into too much depth about
all these, but suffice to say, I will disclose some experiences that I have
had.
Prophetically, I believe and see that all over the world there are people
who are absolutely moving, and who are going to progress into the
supernatural dimension of God. It is like going into the time of Joel where
we can "see visions", have prophecies and where there will be countless
manifestations coming in and being restored again, where the young will come
in and again prophesy. Right now, there is a tremendous inclination towards
the supernatural, and the "open heavens". I have even heard of "open heavens
conferences" that are going on now.
Multiple Translations
into Heaven
Two and a half to three years ago, I was translated a few times into heaven.
My spiritual man was translated. I saw remarkable things there. I saw the
Throne of God. I saw the four living beings around of the Throne of God. God
showed me that there was even a Land of the prophets. I was in the Land of
prophets. I saw Jeremiah and others and many additional things.
I have had a visitation while flying to California from South Africa. It was
a visitation from Jesus. It really took me by surprise when He came walking
down the aisle of that empty plane. He spoke about my mission and calling.
He spoke of certain things that were going to happen personally to me in the
near future, and many have already happened. He also spoke to me about
California, Hollywood and what will be happening there and the areas
surrounding.
Another encounter I had was when I was seventeen where He audibly spoke to
me.
On other occasions, I have been to meetings before I was actually there. In
other words, the Lord has taken me into the spirit ahead of time. I will
tell you of one such experiences where I was praying for a meeting about a
week before the time, and the Lord took me into the spirit and showed me
four separate things that were going to happen in the Church, and that I was
going to have to address them. Briefly then, He firstly pointed out that
there were certain people who were backbiting. Then, secondly, He showed me
homosexuality in certain of the leadership, which I had to deal with very
carefully. Thirdly, I saw where He was moving the backsliders that didn’t
want to go on with the move of God. Then once those three things were done,
I saw a Cloud of Glory come in with the Angels. These things happened
exactly as was shown clearly before. Praise God.
A Burst of the
Supernatural Power of God
I have seen a lot of things in the spiritual realm that God broke. There was
even a plan with America where I saw how an atom bomb was planned and where
the Lord Jesus just cut time. I saw what was like a piece of time that He
cut out when the enemy was really planning something with America. I am well
acquainted with the open heavens and am very excited to see that the current
prophets are moving so powerfully into that realm. One of the first men that
I had heard of that is moving in that realm was Rick Joyner. At that time,
it was very quiet, but suddenly now there is a burst of the supernatural
power. Praise God there is a burst of the supernatural power of God.
Now, at places where I go into and minister, I have seen people’s spiritual
eyes open up and they just see heavenly visions. I can really see where the
book of Joel is coming into being.
Q. How far has your calling taken you geographically?
A. Geographically, I have been to Mauritius, India, and Hong Kong, the
Philippines South Africa and the United States. Current offers stand in
England, France and the Philippines.
Q. What is your vision for your future?
A. I was living in the States for many years, and in 1998, I was in South
Africa for a few weeks with my family. During the conclusion of my trip,
there was a meeting that I had with a trusted prophet who began to say; "You
will take the fire from South Africa to America and then to the rest of the
world."
What I was shown in a vision
three years ago, I believe will demonstrate a piece of my heart to you.
Q. What is God telling you for the church right now?
A. We are going into a time of great restoration. Resurrection will bring
forth the restoration. So it is double. Restoration is double. It is a great
time of the supernatural and the open heavens. It is a grand restitution of
ministries like John G. Lake and William Branham, Smith Wigglesworth and
many others that were in the early times. I see a move like this coming in
the double, but are we ready to handle it? That is why the Prophets and
Apostles are there to prepare us for the greater ministry that is coming.
Q. What is the difference between operating in the gift of prophecy and
operating in the Office of Prophet?
A. The Bible says that "all may prophesy". People tend to confuse the gift
of prophecy with the office of a prophet. Prophecy is for all the corporate
body and edifies it. There are levels of Authority accompanying the gifting.
We should all be prophetic people and have the ability to hear and see.
Many who prophesy in the Church call themselves prophets but they are not.
The Office of prophet is an establishing anointing. The Word says in Eph
2:20, "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets",
Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone.
The Foundation is the Apostle and the Prophet. They are called to
raise people up and establish them in their function.
Impartation. Paul said to
Timothy neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by
prophecy. Paul was both foundational in the impartation of this gift, and
the one who imparted it.
Directional. Agabus is a
classic case. He saw a great famine that was coming to the world Act 11:28.
He prophesied Paul would be bound and delivered to the Gentiles. Acts
21:10-11.
I also believe the prophets will be needed more and will work a lot closer
with the current leaders in the body.
Q. Prophets tend to get pushed into the spotlight, how does this make you
feel?
A. I never let people’s pressure pull me down. I have to stay in the
mountain to maintain. If I come down, I won’t see what God has to say
anymore.
Q. People tend to allow for
error in prophecy because of the human element. Do you agree?
It depends at what level you are prophesying from. If you are prophesying
from your soul and emotions, there can be levels of influence, which can
bring error. Prophets, who prophesy from the spirit, have a pure flow that
they draw from. A prophetic word delivered from a man of God that lives in
the spirit, can be depended on.
Q. Have you ever faced persecution for a prophecy you brought?
A. I have been stood on, screamed at, lied about. I have had persecution for
words given, but the brethren have always come back repenting.
Q. Any words of wisdom for people who are called to the office of
prophet?
A. Go through the process. For the future prophets, there are men that have
already laid some foundations pioneering for us. I do think it will be
easier to move into the gifting and office and not struggle too much with
the Identity issues. God will raise those whom He has called. Stay faithful,
and He will do it.
Q. What do you like to do in your free time?
A. I love praying, reading the word, music, electronic gismos, going to the
beach and hanging out with my family.
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